Timbaland is a thief?

More accusations of Timbaland using samples without providing due credit.

I'm lazy so I'll just rehash the points I made in the thread.

[on Courtship Dating/Ayo Technology]
"It seems like Timbaland sampled the 8-bit sounding melody line, changed the pitch slightly and chopped it up a bit for Ayo Technology. While it isn't strictly biting/theft, because the songs are still different, shouldn't he have to give credit to Crystal Castles? After all, Ayo Technology was a successful song built off the back of another song by a relatively young group. They could use the credit."

[On Timbaland's looped beats]
"Timbaland essentially did with these indian/middle eastern samples what heaps of 90's producers did with soul music. The problem I have with it is that he's not giving credit. At least when producers give credits for their lazy ass loop jobs we know who's actually creatively responsible for that catchy melody. By not crediting, Timbaland is making himself out to be this incredibly creative musician when he's really got nothing but an ear for obvious samples.

What I want to know is how his productions actually take a team to put together. If so many of them are just loops over his own beats, what's the other producer doing? For that matter, if the other producer is making the beats, what's Timbaland doing?"

[On improper credit/royalties]
"By not crediting and by not acknowledging the original samples, Timbaland is a thief. What's worse is he samples internet musicians, modern musicians who are much more inventive than he is and foreign musicians who could use the credit and the subsequent co-writing checks. Not only is Timbaland a thief, he's greedy too."

"One of the points I was kind of trying to make with the topic is that Timbaland is the same as other Hip-Hop producers. He isn't nearly as special or groundbreaking as he makes himself out to be. But then, just because Timbaland has an incredibly high opinion of himself doesn't excuse him from giving credit. And I think the original writers of these songs deserve credit, and royalties, for Timbaland so blatantly sampling their music. He hasn't gone to the effort of hiding the sample so he should be paying for that. Instead he's managed to rack up a lot of hits with 'stolen' music and he's kept most of the money.

Basically, he's living off other people's work and that's pathetic."

Read the whole thread. It's quite interesting seeing what people think of Timbaland and whether or not he's actually 'stealing beats'.

On a sidenote, the Last Shadow Puppets single - The Age of The Understatement - is awesome. The spaghetti western flavour of the tune is fantastically catchy.